The Chair invited the Chief Executive to
present the report on Local Government Reorganisation.
The Chief Executive introduced her
presentation stating that final briefings hadn’t taken place
when the agenda was published and she wanted to incorporate
feedback from those this evening.
The Chief Executive gave a presentation
(slides attached) making the following points:
- the Interim Stage had no geography
included as it was felt that not enough empirical work had yet been
carried out;
- cross-party support had been a
positive motivating factor for officers;
- Growth was missing from
Government’s six criteria and officers had identified six
Exeter principles (slide 6);
- Officers had worked with comparable
cities such as Oxford, Cambridge and Norwich;
- a press release last week showed that the officers had
worked with Plymouth and Torbay to see where their proposals could
be accommodated within Exeter’s;
- officers had moved away from
thinking at the interim stage that 3 unitary councils would be
favourable, mindful of Torbay at the time as a small,
well-performing unitary council, whose wishes had been accommodated
to a degree, to a 4 unitary model – Exeter plus 49 parishes,
Plymouth plus 13 adjacent parishes, Torbay and adjacent areas
(different to Torbay’s model) and a Coast and Countryside
authority;
- the submission must be based on a
solution best for all of Devon;
- Exeter had outgrown its current
administrative boundaries;
- the Leader and Chief Executive were
liaising with Devon Association of Local Councils as well as
Police, Fire Service and other relevant stakeholders;
- Exeter was not currently
parished, unlike other areas and the
intention would be develop Neighbourhood Area Committees and
recommend that the new authority carry out a Community Governance
Review;
- Officers would look to replicate the
good work undertaken in housing across wider public sector
services, including different ways to deliver some of the services
not currently provided by the Council such as Adult Social Care,
Children’s Services and Special Educational Needs and
Disabilities (SEND);
- how services would be delivered
would be decisions for the new authority;
- salient points from Members’ would be reflected as far as possible
in the submission and it would be acknowledged where actions would
be for the shadow or new authority;
- academic work had focussed in the
past on a large one authority bringing efficiencies but more recent
research show that leadership, engaging with local demand,
understanding local needs was recognised as more important;
- joint areas of work with other
districts had been established, resulting in data sharing, a data
hub and discussion about engagement work;
- submissions must be based on
existing district boundaries to be legally compliant. A
modification to the existing district boundaries had then been
requested to reflect the proposed expanded boundaries. Legal advice
had been taken which confirmed the submission would be compliant;
- from options appraisals it appeared
that the Devon County Council proposal was the least worst option but this had not been agreed
through the formal decision-making process; and
- Exeter had city status and must
ensure that the Lord Mayoralty was protected as well as
investigating Charter Status.
The Chief Executive thanked everyone who had
engaged with the proposal and also
officers who had worked incredibly hard over the last eleven months
to put together a submission including Strategic Directors,
Executive Officer Manager, Executive Officer and others as well as
those officers who had kept services running.
Chair reminded members to focus on the work
done by officers and the recommendation.
In response to Councillor Moore’s
request for clarification the Chair explained that there would be
constructive consideration of the recommendation and that officers
were happy to consider feedback raised today.
The Chief Executive clarified that wherever
possible the team would look to incorporate Members’ feedback
into the submission and if during discussing issues, thoughts or
comments were heard which it was possible to incorporate they would
be happy to do so. It was acknowledged that some feedback would
need to be considered by the new unitary authority when it is
established.
The Chief Executive and Strategic Director for
Corporate Resources responded to Members’ questions in the
following terms:
- the proposal did not go into the
detail of warding; the decision would be taken by MHCLG taking
advice from the Boundary Commission;
- the council must put forward a
credible proposal for consideration and no detail on each
ward;
- 72 was the top end of the numbers
considered to deliver a functioning council and this didn’t take into account the lack of representation at
parish level within Exeter;
- reference for the need to consider
the River Exe would be included in the submission;
- there would be a single tier local
authority so no notional precept for a parish would be included;
- A precept of a parish or Charter
would be funded from Council Tax so impact on unitary would be net nil and it would not be possible to
predict what a precept would be;
- Members’ should note that there was no
referendum limit for parish councils they can set a precept as they
see fit.
- aggregation and disaggregation of
costs were included;
- officers would attempt to find out
how many had replied to the consultation compared to other
districts;
- the Council wrote directly to the 49
parish council areas. . Three webinars
were held and a small number of parishes requested one-to-one
meetings which were held. The Leader was also invited to some.
Conversations were all very constructive. Parishes were grateful to
have been contacted directly. 25 of the 49 councils had been
represented at the webinars as well as the Chief Executive having
spoken to at least four;
- unable to give clarification on
Neighbourhood Area Committees or fora as regulations from
Government were awaited but it was understood that this was a key
issue for Members’ and information would be shared when
known;
- thought had not been given to
citizen’s assemblies and these would need to be better
understood in the first instance;
- there was an expectation that once
the submission was with Government and statutory consultation had
begun that the Council would want to continue to discuss locally
how services may work. However, until Government indicated
direction of travel it would be hard to put anything firm
together;
- a plan will begin to be built
otherwise timing would be tight once a decision had been made by
Government;
- NHS, Police and Fire services
already delivered across a wider geography but were less open to
discussion until Government had indicated their intention.
- once a direction of travel was
indicated by Government there would be a significant amount of work
to do;
- some parishes delivered services in
their areas and others did not and an exercise would be required to
determine levels of interest in delivering services. This work
would need to be resourced whether by a new officer or through our
current Community Engagement Team;
- the four unitary model would not
have been put forward were it not financially viable and this had
been assessed using the same data as the other areas of the
county;
- many councils had used consultants
for financial modelling however the Council had chosen to derive
their modelling in conjunction with Plymouth and Torbay and all had agreed to use an official
Government return based on the budget set in February 2025;
- the county council network had
looked at demand areas (Adult Social Care, Children’s
Services and SEND) and this had been used;
- Multi-super Output Area(MSOA) showed where the service demand was and
which geographical area it would be based in. A more accurate
estimate of expenditure was given based on what was happening
now;
- Pixel financial management, who had
worked on many of the bids, looked at funding and based that on the
new formula which would come forward in December, Fair funding 2.0.
Section 151 officers must sign off a financial model and therefore
couldn’t put this forward ethically if it was not believed to
work;
- it was not a unique situation to
have some areas which had parish councils and some which did
not;
- £135,000 was approved by
Council for LGR work and the spend had been greater which would be
reported accordingly;
- The Inner Circle Report had cost
£8,000;
- the report would state education
where this was general and refer to school only where a school was
meant in order to include Early Years
and those educated other than in a school;
- our approach had been explained to
Police and Fire services and they had
explained how they deliver services and
future work would be to look at how our work supported their
work ;
- Government statutory consultation
was likely to begin around February;
- Neighbourhood Plans would be treated
in same way as Local Plans, they are
statutory and would not be undermined;
- service delivery would be integrated
with other public sector bodies where possible;
- the principle identified was local
delivery to meet local needs and work with third sector
organisations who were able to advocate or represent and understand
communities;
- there would not be asset disposal
for the remaining life of this council that wasn’t already
planned or identified;
- Pixel had used the formulae in Fair
Funding 2.0 on best projection for the funding mechanism and Exeter
was projected to do quite well as a result which would have a
positive impact on the potential unitary authority;
- it would be difficult to estimate
demand and inflation for the next three years therefore officers
chose to ignore both and keep calculations straightforward;
- the Fair Funding model was based on
next year and estimates had to bring calculations back to this
year’s prices to make a like for like comparison;
- flexible use of capital receipts had
been offered by Government in recent times, to cover
transformational costs, which Transitional costs fall into. This
might change planning around the current capital programme to
potentially use some borrowing there but not borrowing for
transitional costs;
- the financial model was extremely
prudent;
- there were no significant savings
projected through service transformation within upper tier
services, built into the viability model;
- the financial model, based on
disaggregation, taking apart the upper tier, as well as savings
from bringing together district councils;
- there would be some rationalisation
of property but mainly of officers, for example, there were eleven
Section 151 Officers but only four would be required; and
- waste collection was efficient in
Exeter with the MRF generating income and this model could be
adopted across the new areas.
The Chair stated that the councillor numbers
presented had come from a consensus from Group Leaders rather than
being decided by officers.
Councillor Pole moved the recommendation from
the Chair.
Councillor Haigh proposed an amendment,
seconded by Councillor Moore and following a unanimous vote was
CARRIED.
That the Special Strategic Scrutiny
Committee:
2.1 Notes the work being done by officers to
develop a final proposal for LGR in Devon and notes Member feedback
to help shape that submission.
As the amendment was carried it became the
substantive motion which Councillor Pole moved from the Chair,
seconded by Councillor Atkinson and following a unanimous vote was
CARRIED.